Thursday, November 6, 2008

Next Question: Bush Legacy

What do you think will be the legacy of the Bush Administration? What will historians write about Bush and his 8 years in office? Would a Gore Presidency have been different in relation to 9/11, Iraq, Economics, etc? Explain your points, please.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

legacy- embarrassingly inarticulate
hmm i havent paid much attention to the bush administartion
or Gore
but actually, Gore would probably have given us a good energy policy

Hillary Weymouth said...

I think Bush's legacy will be the Iraqi "war". So much drama and opposition has occurred since the start of this project Bush started. People complain about the soilders over seas and the amount of tax dollars spents. The war debt has been a common topic when talking about the Iraqi "war". Therefore I believe Bush's legacy will be the Iraqi war.

Anonymous said...

hillary u forgot to quote 2 of ur wars



ok so that makes me think, yeah i guess that's what id say, the military stuff in the mideast and the disasters like 911 and katrina

Unknown said...

I don't really think that Bush will just have a single legacy. There are too many things to just pinpoint a generalization. FDR, for example, is known for more than getting us out of the depression. He is also known for various quotes ("The only thing to fear is fear itself") and his reaction to WWII/Pearl Harbor. Maybe I only know that (and more) because he is my favorite president. :) Anyway. Bush will be known by many as one of the worst presidents of the country, I'm sure. He is a good person, he just did not have the ability to make the right decisions for the United States, and he was President during pretty bad times. He will be remembered for his inability to react accordingly to many situations. The most prominent thing in his legacy will be the Iraq conflict, the War on Terror. He will be remembered for the Patriot Act and how he handled 9/11, for how he treated the Katrina victims/situation, his vocabulary and bumbling actions. He will also be remembered for being President during a pretty intensly horrible economic crisis. That's what the historians will write about. People tend to remember the bad rather than the good. I bet most people know that FDR was the President with polio, and everyone remembers Bill Clinton for his scandal in the White House. They do not remember Clinton shutting down Washington DC, and I don't even really know what good he did.

From what I know about Gore, the only thing we wouldn't suffer from would be global warming. If this is true, we might not be in an economic crisis because we'd be putting forth efforts into research and sciences to stop global warming, which could be a good thing. But that's just a guess. Clearly people thought that Gore would have made a better President, based on the 2000 election. We can never really know what he would do as President because he has never been put into the same position as President Bush. Whether he really would have done anything different is not something one can guess, at least I can't. I hope that President Bush made the decisions he made because he thought that it was the best thing for the United States, and I think Gore would have done the same.

cfrawley2010 said...

The legacy of the Bush administration will be one of embarassment for sure, but also of prosperity before 9/11. Historians will say that he handled the Iraqi War poorly. Instead of investigating the situation in full detail, he believed the false information given to him and acted upon instinct. Spending so much money on the Iraq War and trying to get them set up in a democracy has cost the economy much money and the country is in great debt. I do not believe that anything different would have come out a Gore admninstration. I believe the crisis would have been handled about the same and the United States could be even further in debt.

christianchick45 said...

I think when historians write about the Bush Administration they will mostly write about the War on Terrorism, 9/11, Hurriane Katrina, the overwhelming unpopularity of Bush himself. I think the events will be remembered more. I think they would write about something such as the War on Terrorism and say "oh yea, and Bush was president". I mean, I am not sure if it is really his fault, I am sure with any president we would have still been in huge debt and whatnot. I think Bush was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, really. I am sure as President he tried his best to get us through bad times, as laughable as the results were.
I do not know much about Gore, except that he should have won the 2000 election according to "Unprecedented" (but we are done with that so I will move on :) )...I know he has a lot to do with fighting global warming. But democrats and republicans are really the same when it all comes down to it, so I think he would not have done anything differently from Bush. Democrats spend as much as Repubs, so we would still be in a massive debt if Gore was in office. I'm not sure about Iraq, but if Gore is anything like Obama, we probably would not have went to war. Of course, how do you react to something like 9/11 (assuming it WAS indeed a terrorist job...and not an INSIDE job...but that was the last question) ? I think Bush tried to get us through situations to the best of his abilites, just as Gore would have done. So I think they probably would have had similar administrations.

Andrew said...

Well its hard to say what kind of legacy the Bush administration will have. I rember back in elementary school many of my teachers said that the No Child Left Behind Act would be his legacy, i feel now that this is only his legacy on education. I feel that The Iraq war will be his main legacy because the events of 9/11 and the war in afganistan seem to be more supported by the Dems and the media was not to harsh on it. The iraq war though seems to have grabed the attention of the media and conspiratists and they ran with it and made it into a bad thing and if everyone belives that, well then its the truth and it becomes his legacy. Also i think that a new legacy with political cartoons and comedy shows has formed, where as their has been so much comedy and mockery that now many more cartoons and tv shows think its ok to biasedly mock the president with out thinking twice about it.
Also as for elections George Bush has created a legacy, where the election of 2000 really seemed to start his presidency of unpopularaly.
I think that historians will write the truth of the matters that went on and also mention that he was critized for what he did, and this will seem a lot different than what the media potraied his presidency. Also i think that historians will say somewhere close to the end of his presidency that he finished his term silently and with out much attention.
Im sure that having Al gore in office would of changed a lot of things, first off i dont think much of a reaction would occur after the 9/11 attacks, i belive that there would be a small amount of fighting against al-queda but no prolonged war or any war in Iraq. Then there would be a cycle where this would happen and a few years later al-queda would attack again and we would have a more serious war. With the economy i belive that it would have gone down more quickly and with worse results. Al Gore would definatly keep Bill Clintons polices where people could purchase a house for free and have long term morgatges, like Bush. Only Al gore would most likely get rid of the rich tax cuts and raise taxes on a lot of people. Since the rich would be taxed they couldnt support the wall street markets as much and with the poor and middle class people selling their stocks and buying a lot less hurting the economy , and without the rich people to support the stock markets as much the whole economy would fall apart faster and be more devistating. (i wounder if Al Gore would still of gained all the weight he did, if he became president?) Despite this i think that he would of created a more "green america" only from american tax payer's money.

Anonymous said...

idk i guess i get what ure saying about Gore as a Democrat being less prone to military action but 9/11 was a big deal, i think it's a bit much to say he wouldnt have made an adequate response

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Anonymous said...

i agree with most of the people on this page. Bush was a bad president. The hardships that were thrown at him (9/11, the economy, ect.) may have hindered what he actually wanted to do as president, but the point of being a predient is to lead the country. Well i guess he did, but striaght into the ground. He will be known for the war that cannot be won, the "war on terror" and the Iraq conflict. He will be known for his terrible grammer. I really don't think if you speak like Bush does, you should be able to be president. You just make the U.S. look more stupid than we already are. He will be known for saying that there were WMD in the middle east. He will be known for leading the country into a reccesion and maybe a depression. He will be known for giving the U.S. a massive debt. Even if every single one of these things are not directly his fault, he is the president and it comes right back to him.
There is no way to determine whether or not Gore would have been a better preident because he wasn't. You can't even look at the things he said during his campaigning for presidency because people say things just to get what they want. Then, as soon as they get it, they do the exact opposite as they say. But im a democrat so im sort of obilgated to say he would have been a better president. Maybe all the polar bears would be okay :-)

Travis Danner said...

The Bush legacy will be one of corruption, bad speaking skills, and an unnecessary war. Historians will rip ol' George a new one, and in fact already are. Many negative points will come up, including the FEMA disaster of 2005, and Dick Cheney's accident in the field. Most criticized, however, will be his quest for WMD's in 2004, and the disaster that the media has created. Bush's legacy: crap.

kratliff said...

the Bush legacy will be one of a guy who was in over his head. He did his best but was not equipped to handle the necissary tasks.
a gore administration probably would have gone down about the same. You put garbage in and you get garbage out.
the president has little control over the economy 9/11 probably still would have happened and i get the feeling the idea of invading iraq was on the shelf for a few years prior to 2000

Anonymous said...

i dont like this concept of "he did his best" which ive heard more than once
first, it is difficult to measure "his best", his ability
second, the statement seems to imply that this is acceptable or adequate
y hold presidents to such low standards? maybe it has to do with self-esteem & not wanting to acknowledge someone else's superiority, instead labeling them as arrogant elites
.. and thats bad
it obstructs progress

cheezwizz90 said...

Let's see... his legacy will be the raq war for sure, Homeland Security, and the No Child Left Behind Act, as well as leading the nation to be more patriotic after 9/11. I think a lot of people think he was doing great after the attacks, even i wanted revenge and war. But the war needs to end now. Bush ran the deficit waaaay too high and lets not forget his agonizingly slow reaction to the Katrina disaster. i also think he will leave a legacy as an easy president to make fun of because of the way his grammar mirrors that of an elementary school student. He just picked a bad time to be president with so much going on to deal with. I cannot think of one thng really great he did, and neither will historians.
Gore would have also gone to war because the american people pretty much demanded it after the terror attacks, but a Democrat would have pulled out by now because so many Democrats today oppose the war in the Middle East. I'm afraid i don't know very much about Gore so I have no idea about how he would stand on anything else. Sorry Mr. Tomashot, but when Gore was running we were all too young to care about his platform or remember it today.

BradW said...

I think George Bush will be remembered for many things, none of which are positive. I think he will be remembered for the Iraq war. How billions of tax dollars and soldiers lives were lost to try to set up a democracy in an area surrounded by violence and hatred between different religious groups. I think Bush will also be remembered for the mess that is our economy. Under the Bush administration, we have gone from having a surplus to a 10 trillion dollar deficit. Bush will also be remembered for things like the No Child Left Behind Act, Patriot Act, and his delayed response to Hurricane Katrina.

If Gore was president, I think his legacy would be different. It is hard to speculate how different his presidency would be, but I believe that he probably would not have invaded Iraq based on liberals being less prone to war. Due to this, I think that the economy would be better because the war in Iraq has been a huge drain on the economy.

Hannah said...

Oh myy the Bush administration. The legacy will probably of the major events listed by previous people, i.e. Iraq War, Katrina, 9/11. While people argue Bush handled 9/11 well (and I can kind of see that) people will remember the failure that was Katrina. However, on a lighter note, I think another Bush legacy will be his mis-speakings. I mean come on, the guy has been pretty entertaining. Historians will probably write of the wonderfully underfunded "No Child Left Behind Act" which fiscally punishes schools that actually, can you believe it, need MORE money to raise test scores. Historians will also probably write of the "speed" the Iraq war, I mean mission accomplished cam pretty quick right? Even though twice as many soliders have died since the accomplishment as during the "mission." To be honest, considering what has happened, I don't know that Gore would have been a much better president. (I know shocker from some crazy hippie liberal like me). Of course we'd have a better energy plan, we'd probably be less dependent on oil, and yeah the environment would be better off, but as for things like the war, (not saying Bush did a good job) Gore probably wouldn't have done much better.

Anonymous said...

I think that the Buch legacy would be how unpopular he was. No one really was 100% for anything that he did. Historians will just write about how he did nothing but how he made the economy bad or how it was the wrong choice to invade Iraq.

Could Gore have done better?

I really have no idea. But I do agree with what Katherine has said.

We would have a good energy policy.

Anonymous said...

I think the legacy of the Bush administry will be the Iraq War and the worsening economic climate. Historians will probably write about the "tragic downward spiral" the country's economy has taken since the beginning of the war. I don't think there would have been much of a difference with 9/11 if Gore had been in office. The only reason Bush has gotten criticized for going into Iraq is because he happened to be in office at the time. If Gore had been in office, he would've eventually been criticized as well. And I believe the economic situation would have been exactly the same as well. Presidents inheirit the the economy from the past presidency.

adam nooe said...

The legacy of the Bush Administration will be thought of as a pathetic, undermined, illegitimate, and in all honesty, probably the most unsuccessful presidential administration of all time.
Historians will probably weep, thinking about what a tragedy his eight years in office have done for the US.
Gore probably wouldn't have jumped into war, due to his pacifistic nature. He also would have cared a bit more about the earth! As for economics, he would realize the trickle down theory only works in theory and do it from the bottom up. Ha.

Joe Weiffenbach said...

I think the Bush Legacy will focus on George Bush's relentless desire to secure and make America safe both at home and abroad. I feel that his legacy will heavily focus on the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Though the President is not very popular now i think that history will look back and hold President Bush as one of our better Presidents. The President is supposed to be someone who can make swift, decisive, and sometimes unpopular decisions. I feel that George Bush is this President. He made very difficult decisions involving sending American troops overseas. Though it was not the most popular decision, he knew it was right for the nation's security. President Bush will also be seen as a man who did not compromise on his morals and beliefs in order to pander or please the masses. He simply made the decisions he knew were right, even if it meant drastic blows to his popularity rating among Americans and in the eyes of the international community. I feel George Bush will be seen as a man who united a nation after the tragedies of 9/11. He will be seen as a true patriot who did his best to bring together a nation, in one of our most dire times. The President has done his best to secure America from further attack and has succeed in doing so. He has also built key allies and strengthened others. The President has done more than any other President in contributing to AIDS research and treatment. The President passed a famous piece of legislation known as the "No Child Left Behind" act. though controversial and not widely liked, he has tried to build and expand America's schools and education system. Bush will have a lasting legacy of a strong National Defense and a strong core value and belief system. The President has not faltered or retreated on his principles, morals, values, and beliefs. He is in my mind a great President, who has had one of the most challenging Presidencies in history.

Alex Chuna said...

Bush Legacy will definetly be the 9/11 attack and his response. The War in Iraq and Afganistan. Also, Bush will be remembered for not being very articulate when he made speechs. The third thing Bush will be remembered for his the No Child Left Behind Act.

Anonymous said...

I think W's legacy will be the whole Iraqi fiasco and the failure to catch Osama, as well as a bunch of other failures like the obscene gas prices and lack of aid or planning for Katrina. Firstly, we're still fighting in Iraq, looking for "WMDs" that we're never going to find. Plus, we still haven't caught the guy who is really responsible for Al Qaeda even though we've been searching for him since Clinton's administration. That said, Clinton didn't actually send the US military to Afghanistan and find Bin Laden, but Bush has been more preoccupied with distracting Americans at home with this whole Iraq thing even though he has to change his explanation of the purpose of our invasion every 5 minutes.
I think a Gore presidency would have at least been different on several economic issues like not giving tax cuts to rich people who don't really work for their money and invest 95% of their money in Chinese and Mexican stocks, and Gore would probably have focused more on Osama instead of playing up the "Saddam has WMDs; let's ignore Bin Laden because Saddam says we're Satan-worshippers- even though everyone in the Middle East says that and Bin Laden's the one who actually attacked us" crap. Also, I think Gore would have been more proactive in providing aid on the Gulf Coast during and after Katrina, but I don't think any presidential candidate from 2000 or 2004 would have seen the storm coming or have the foresight to update the levy system beforehand.

Marie Pretzinger said...

I think Bush's legacy will mostly be thought of a man who wasn't ready for the job he was elected to do. Unfortunately, his un-readiness for the job, in turn, kind of screwed over our nation.
As former Congressman Scarborough put it, "He reminded me of a frat boy, only he was dressed in a suit."

I don't think Gore's presidency would have been much better, however. He still would have faced the same economic downturns, and he still probably would have had to dealt with Iraq. However, he probably would have dealt with things a lot differently, and perhaps he wouldn't have led us on the great "Let's Find The WMDs Mission" of 2004. As Katherine said, Gore probably would have given us one heck of an energy policy...

s.lykins said...

i think most people will remember Bush for his "Bush-isms" also his response to 9/11 and the Iraq war. of course a Gore President would have responded differently, the parties may have felt the same but i dont believe Gore would've started a war that would still be going on.

Aimee22 said...

I think that the legacy of Bush will be a negative one. I think that historians will write about how he handled disastrous events such as September 11th, hurricane Katrina, and the Iraqi war. I think that his unpopularity will be obvious and he will be remembered as one of the worst presidents. I do not think that Gore's presidency would have been different in relation to these events. I believe that Bush did all that he or anyone else could in an attempt to protect and better our country during these rough times. I agree that he will was in the wrong place at the wrong time and in this way was unlucky. He is going to be remembered for the worst parts of his presidency.

tiajones said...

historians will write that bush was a bad president because he based the iraq war on wmds that weren't even there, and because of hurricane katrina when he didn't do anything on time. but, he did create homeland security and no child left behind to help americans, which is a good thing.

gore is a democrat so he probably wouldn't have gone to war in the first place.


:)

s.lykins said...

i also agree with Aimees perception of the Bush legacy being a neagtive one. it seems like he has created, or been unlucky enough to have things happen, in a largely negative manner.

Chris said...

What do you think will be the legacy of the Bush Administration? What will historians write about Bush and his 8 years in office? Would a Gore Presidency have been different in relation to 9/11, Iraq, Economics, etc? Explain your points, please.

As we have talked about this in extent and i have payed attention. to the first point the mass public would perceive that the Bush Administration was one of the worst in the history of the united states, but to the majority of moderate political would say that the Bush Administration is one of the best. AS Bush has made gains in many ways of which are: he has headed the biggest expansion of government protected lands and for some there has not been another attack on American soil, morality on PATRIOT act and FISA aside. And as we have talked about Bush is not the cause of the financial crisis as is. That is the accumulation of

Chris said...

a century of economic waste on the part of Congress, and the negligence of the political sector. Many economist would agree with this statement. However you could pin the act of not doing something quick enough on the Bush administration. So as to this the Bush administration, would be seen as impartial not a Hoover or a F.D.R. But for the most part the acts of 9-11 has severly impacted the Bush Administrations policy. Every single policy since has been geared towards combating terrorism. As for Gore i maybe maybe not as he has even said that the Presidency would not have right for him and that. IF you wish to hear more talk to me/(KRISHA)
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Steven Ellis said...

Bush's legacy will probably be pretty bad, especially if people in the future are liberals.

We went to war with pretty weak evidence of WMDs in Iraq/Afghanistan. Though he probably did honestly believe (as most Americans did at that time) that there were WMDs.

No child left behind has basically been a massive failure, and I recall Tomashot mentioning it being a plot to kill off public schools in favor of private schools.

The lack of environmental policies is also a concern, but that seems to be more of the overall political culture in America than just Bush himself.

He'll also probably be remembered for his far-right positions on stem cell research gay marriage, though that's certainly a matter of opinion for whether it's good or bad. At least he stands up for what he believes in.

I also personally foresee the world being run by a bunch of liberal hippies(perhaps even commies!) in the future, who will obviously not be big fans of Bush.

Gore probably would've implemented some crazy energy policy with absurd tax increases on gas/coal/etc. However, even if such a policy would be economically bad in the short term, it's probably a good idea in the long term. We may also not have gone to war, though that's questionable.

Shane Tomashot said...

Get outta here Krishna! Just kidding. Actually, I welcome your comments (legitimate and useful to the discussion) any time.

Alyssa said...

I belive that bush's legay will be the Iraq war. i think he will be be looked at as a bad president because of his decisions with the war and of coarse all of his "bushisms". Also i think Bush will be remembered by the 911 attack and hurricane Katrina.

i honestly know were little about Gore becuase my parents hate the man... so when he came on the tv the channel was changed :] but i knew he is very concerned about global warming and the environment so i would assume that his legacy would have something to do with that.